I went ahead and sprung for the $200 a month for ChatGPT Pro as I do a lot of data analysis on very large and complicated data sets.  

The first thing I through at it was last month's full Perforce logs with diffs and and all so that I could get a nice friendly report of the various developers, how many CLs they did and an evaluation on the type of work they did and how much work they did.

Here are my results:

• ChatGPT 4o.  Basically useless.  It didn't even get the number of CLs right and refused to even try to give a scope of work.
• o1. Much better, it got the number of CLs right but it couldn't really figure out how much work each did.  But it still gave me a decent overview. 
• o1Pro.  Very impressive.  The big difference here is that it went and did a relative analysis of each so that the work rating of each was relative to each other.  

So is o1Pro worth it? Not unless you're doing a lot of data analysis and even then... I'm not sure.  

For me specifically it is probably worth it.  There are plenty of tools out there that will do analysis on this kind of thing but the thing is, I don't have to know or care about them.  This is a generalized tool.

When I look at the people who have gotten "canceled" over things they posted on the Internet, it's disproportionately GenXers.  

Why is that?

I think it's the awkward timing. GenX grew up on BBSes and Usenet which were a free for all.  It wasn't until the Millennials and later GenZ came on the scene that the raunchy, insensitive, or intentionally trolling behaviors of GenX got us into trouble.

I'm going to use a number of really dumb analogies to try to explain how these large language models like ChatGPT work.

First, you have the amount of training they have done combined with the number of things they can look at at once.  ChatGPT 4 is much better than ChatGPT 3 in that regard.  Think of this as the AI's "hard drive".

Second, and often unappreciated, is the number of tokens that the model can handle.  Think of this as RAM.  Tokens represents how much the AI can "remember" about what you re talking about.  ChatGPT 3 could do 4K.  ChatGPT 4 defaults to 8K and there's a 32K version on the horizon.  When it runs out of tokens, it starts to get wonky. 

The user asks a question of ChatGPT and gets an answer.  The user can then ask a follow-up question.  

AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) has many definitions but one of the key components is to get the AI to handle its own inner monologue (answer it's own questions and pose new ones that it will then answer) to work out a larger problem.

So what if you could get ChatGPT to answer it's own questions and then have those answers cause ChatGPT to ask new questions based on those answers?

That is the super simple explanation of what BabyAGI does. BabyAGI takes advantage of some new technologies including Vector databases like Pinecone which effectively gives the AI a longer term memory. You can find the Github distribution here.  Vector databaes don't fully solve the token limitation but they help.

Once you have it set up, you can ask it to solve a big problem.

For my test, I asked it how I could make my Russian Tortoises have a better life.  An hour later, the world was made of paperclips but boy did I get my answer and here it is:

(note: The AI generated ALL of this)

Happy Russian Tortoises

Goal: Improve the life of the Tortoises

Initial task: Develop a task list

• Create a safe and comfortable habitat: Design and set up a comfortable indoor and outdoor living space for the Russian tortoises, ensuring they have enough space to roam, hide, and bask in the sun.
• Develop a balanced diet plan: Research and create a diet plan consisting of various leafy greens, vegetables, and occasional fruit, ensuring that the Russian tortoises receive proper nutrition and avoid overfeeding.
• Schedule regular health check-ups: Coordinate with a qualified veterinarian to perform annual health check-ups and address any health concerns that may arise.
• Implement a daily exercise routine: Encourage the Russian tortoises to stay active by providing them with opportunities to explore, climb, and dig in their environment.
• Provide mental stimulation: Introduce creative enrichment activities to keep the Russian tortoises mentally engaged, such as hiding food in puzzle toys or rotating the placement of their habitat's decorations.
• Maintain optimal temperature and humidity levels: Regularly monitor and adjust the temperature and humidity levels in the Russian tortoises' habitat to ensure they are within the ideal range, providing them with a comfortable living environment.
• Educate caretakers on proper care: Offer training sessions or workshops for the Russian tortoises' caretakers, ensuring they understand how to provide the best possible care for these animals.
• Monitor social interactions: Observe the Russian tortoises' interactions with each other, ensuring that they are getting along and not exhibiting signs of aggression or stress.
• Develop a cleaning and maintenance routine: Establish a regular schedule for cleaning and maintaining the Russian tortoises' habitat, ensuring that their living environment remains clean and sanitary.
• Research advancements in Russian tortoise care: Stay up-to-date with the latest research and advancements in Russian tortoise care, incorporating new findings into their care routine as appropriate.
• Establish a support network: Connect with other Russian tortoise caretakers, veterinarians, and experts to exchange valuable information, advice, and support.
• Advocate for responsible pet ownership: Raise awareness about the responsibilities and commitment involved in caring for Russian tortoises, encouraging future pet owners to make informed decisions when considering adopting these animals.

Ideal Habitat Layout for Russian Tortoises

Indoor Habitat

• Enclosure dimensions: The indoor habitat should be at least 4 feet by 8 feet in size, with a minimum height of 18 inches. This will provide ample space for the tortoises to move around and explore their environment.
• Substrate: A mixture of coco coir, cypress mulch, and organic topsoil should be used as the substrate. This will help maintain proper humidity levels and allow the tortoises to burrow.
• Basking area: A basking area should be placed in one corner of the enclosure, with a basking lamp providing a temperature of 90 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. This will help the tortoises thermoregulate and aid in their digestion.
• Hiding spots: Multiple hiding spots should be placed throughout the enclosure, such as half logs, overturned plant pots, or commercially available reptile hides. This will provide the tortoises with a sense of security and privacy.
• Food and water: A shallow dish should be provided for fresh water, and a separate dish for their daily greens and vegetables. These should be placed away from the basking area to prevent excess heat from wilting the food.
• Climbing and enrichment: Rocks and branches should be placed throughout the enclosure to provide climbing opportunities and stimulation for the tortoises. Additionally, live or artificial plants can be added for extra enrichment.

Outdoor Habitat

• Enclosure dimensions: The outdoor habitat should be at least 4 feet by 8 feet in size, with a minimum height of 18 inches. A secure fence or wall should surround the perimeter to prevent escape and protect from predators.
• Substrate: A mixture of natural grasses and organic topsoil should be used as the substrate. This will allow the tortoises to graze and forage naturally.
• Basking area: A basking area should be provided with natural sunlight, or a basking lamp if sunlight is insufficient. The temperature should range from 90 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit.
• Hiding spots: Multiple hiding spots should be placed throughout the enclosure, such as large rocks, dense shrubbery, or commercially available reptile hides.
• Food and water: A shallow dish should be provided for fresh water, and a separate dish for their daily greens and vegetables. These should be placed in a shaded area to prevent excess heat from wilting the food.
• Climbing and enrichment: Rocks and branches should be placed throughout the enclosure to provide climbing opportunities and stimulation for the tortoises. Additionally, live plants can be added for extra enrichment.
• Weather protection: A small, weatherproof shelter should be provided for the tortoises to retreat to during inclement weather or extreme temperatures. This shelter should be insulated and have a regulated temperature to ensure their safety and comfort.

After conducting research on common health issues that Russian tortoises may face, I have identified several health problems and developed strategies for prevention and treatment. Here are the main health concerns and their corresponding prevention and treatment strategies

• Respiratory infections: Symptoms include wheezing, runny nose, and difficulty breathing. To prevent respiratory infections, maintain a clean habitat and ensure proper temperature and humidity levels.

Prevention

- Maintain proper temperature (70-85°F) and humidity (40-60%) levels in the habitat.

- Clean the habitat regularly to prevent bacterial growth.

Treatment

- Consult a veterinarian for proper diagnosis and antibiotic treatment.

- Increase the basking area temperature to help boost the tortoise's immune system.

• Shell rot: This condition is caused by fungal or bacterial infections that result in softening or disintegration of the shell.

Prevention

- Maintain proper humidity levels in the habitat.

- Keep the habitat clean and dry to prevent fungal and bacterial growth.

Treatment

- Consult a veterinarian for proper diagnosis and treatment, which may include topical antifungal or antibiotic medications.

- Clean the affected areas with a diluted iodine or chlorhexidine solution, as recommended by the veterinarian.

• Metabolic bone disease (MBD): This is caused by an imbalance in calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin D3, leading to weak and deformed bones and shells.

Prevention

- Provide a balanced diet with appropriate levels of calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin D3.

- Ensure access to UVB lighting to aid in calcium absorption.

Treatment

- Consult a veterinarian for proper diagnosis and treatment, which may include calcium and vitamin D3 supplements.

- Monitor and adjust the tortoise's diet and lighting to ensure proper nutrient levels.

• Parasites: Internal parasites, such as worms, can cause weight loss, diarrhea, and lethargy.

Prevention

- Maintain a clean habitat to minimize the risk of parasite exposure.

- Regularly wash your hands before and after handling the tortoise to prevent cross-contamination.

Treatment

- Consult a veterinarian for proper diagnosis and treatment, which may include deworming medication.

• Dehydration: Insufficient water intake can lead to dehydration, kidney problems, and bladder stones.

Prevention

- Provide fresh, clean water in a shallow dish for the tortoise to drink and soak in.

- Maintain proper humidity levels in the habitat.

Treatment

- Consult a veterinarian if dehydration is suspected.

- Increase the humidity levels in their habitat and ensure access to fresh water.

By implementing these prevention and treatment strategies, you can improve the life quality of your Russian tortoises and help them lead a healthy life. Regular veterinary checkups are also essential for monitoring their overall health and addressing any potential issues early.

Weekly Diet Plan for Russian Tortoises

Monday

- Breakfast: Dandelion greens (chopped)

- Lunch: Collard greens (chopped) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

- Dinner: Bell pepper (sliced)

Tuesday

- Breakfast: Mustard greens (chopped)

- Lunch: Romaine lettuce (chopped)

- Dinner: Cucumber (sliced) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

Wednesday

- Breakfast: Endive (chopped)

- Lunch: Kale (chopped) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

- Dinner: Zucchini (sliced)

Thursday

- Breakfast: Watercress (chopped)

- Lunch: Escarole (chopped)

- Dinner: Yellow squash (sliced) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

Friday

- Breakfast: Bok choy (chopped)

- Lunch: Arugula (chopped) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

- Dinner: Carrot (shredded)

Saturday

- Breakfast: Turnip greens (chopped)

- Lunch: Cabbage (chopped)

- Dinner: Tomato (sliced) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

Sunday (treat day)

- Breakfast: Radicchio (chopped)

- Lunch: A small piece of strawberry or apple

- Dinner: Butternut squash (cooked and mashed) with a sprinkle of calcium powder

Note: Sprinkle calcium powder on the food 3-4 times a week to ensure proper calcium intake. Provide a UVB light to help with vitamin D3 synthesis. Always provide clean, fresh water for your tortoise. This diet plan should be adjusted according to the age and size of your Russian tortoise. Consult a veterinarian for specific dietary needs and adjustments.

Exercise and Enrichment Program for Russian Tortoises

Objective: To design a variety of activities and enrichment ideas that promote physical and mental stimulation for Russian tortoises, improving their overall well-being.

• Climbing Opportunities

- Provide multiple levels or platforms with ramps or rocks for the tortoises to climb and explore.

- Ensure any climbing structures are stable and secure to prevent injuries.

• Digging and Burrowing

- Create designated digging areas using a mix of coconut coir, topsoil, and sand, allowing the tortoises to dig and burrow as they would in their natural habitat.

- Rotate the digging areas to keep the environment interesting and engaging.

• Maze Exploration

- Set up a maze with cardboard, rocks, or bricks that the tortoise can navigate, encouraging mental stimulation and exploration.

- Rearrange the maze weekly or biweekly to maintain interest.

• Foraging and Feeding Enrichment

- Scatter food items throughout the enclosure to encourage natural foraging behavior.

- Provide edible plants, such as dandelions, clover, or plantain, in the enclosure for the tortoise to graze on and explore.

- Hang leafy greens from a string or clip, encouraging the tortoise to stretch and reach for their food.

• Sensory Stimulation

- Introduce a variety of textures, such as soft moss, smooth rocks, and rough bark, for the tortoise to explore and experience different sensations.

- Use a variety of substrates, such as sand, soil, or gravel, to provide varied terrain for the tortoise to traverse.

• Hide and Seek

- Hide treats, such as cut-up vegetables or fruit, in small containers or under rocks for the tortoise to find, promoting problem-solving skills and mental stimulation.

• Social Interaction

- If possible, house multiple compatible Russian tortoises together, allowing for social interaction and activity.

- Monitor interactions closely to ensure the tortoises are getting along and to prevent any aggressive behavior.

• Outdoor Excursions

- Weather permitting, provide supervised outdoor time in a secure and enclosed area with natural sunlight, allowing the tortoise to explore and bask in the sun.

• Toys and Objects

- Introduce safe and tortoise-appropriate toys or objects, such as balls, mirrors, or tunnels, for the tortoise to investigate and interact with.

- Rotate toys and objects periodically to maintain interest and prevent boredom.

Regularly monitor the Russian tortoises during enrichment activities to ensure they are engaging with their environment and to assess the effectiveness of the activities. Adjust the exercise and enrichment program as needed to continue promoting physical and mental well-being for the Russian tortoises.

• Enclosure: A suitable indoor or outdoor enclosure, such as a tortoise table or a secure outdoor pen with appropriate dimensions (minimum 4 ft x 2 ft for one adult Russian tortoise).
• Substrate: A mixture of coconut coir, cypress mulch, or organic topsoil (pesticide and fertilizer-free) for the indoor enclosure, and natural grass or plants for the outdoor enclosure.
• Hiding spots: Provide at least two hiding spots, such as a wooden or ceramic tortoise house, half-log hide, or a plant-filled corner.
• Basking spot: A flat, heat-resistant stone or tile for basking.
• Heating equipment: A heat lamp with a ceramic socket and a thermostat to maintain proper temperatures (90-95°F in the basking area and 70-80°F in the cooler area).
• UVB lighting: A UVB tube light or compact fluorescent bulb to ensure proper calcium absorption and overall health.
• Light timer: An automatic timer to maintain a consistent day and night cycle (12-14 hours of light per day).
• Thermometer and hygrometer: Digital or analog devices to monitor temperature and humidity levels in the enclosure.
• Water dish: A shallow, sturdy dish for the tortoise to drink from and soak in.
• Food dish: A flat, smooth surface or shallow dish for serving food.
• Calcium supplement: A powdered calcium supplement without added vitamin D3 to sprinkle on the tortoise's food.
• Multivitamin supplement: A powdered multivitamin supplement to use occasionally with the tortoise's diet.
• Cleaning supplies: A reptile-safe disinfectant, scrub brush, and paper towels for cleaning the enclosure and accessories.
• Outdoor habitat supplies (if applicable): A secure perimeter fence, weather-resistant hiding spots, and a shaded area to protect the tortoise from extreme temperatures and predators.
• Enrichment items: A variety of objects and materials to encourage natural behaviors, such as rocks, logs, tunnels, and edible plants.

Weekly Cleaning and Maintenance Schedule for Russian Tortoise's Habitat

Monday

• Remove and replace soiled substrate in the indoor habitat
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Spot clean any feces or uneaten food in the outdoor habitat
• Check and clean hiding spots, basking areas, and other structures in both habitats

Tuesday

• Sweep or vacuum the floor around the indoor habitat to remove loose substrate
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Check and adjust the temperature and humidity levels in the indoor habitat
• Inspect the outdoor habitat for any potential hazards or issues

Wednesday

• Remove and replace soiled substrate in the outdoor habitat
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Spot clean any feces or uneaten food in the indoor habitat
• Check and clean hiding spots, basking areas, and other structures in both habitats

Thursday

• Sweep or vacuum the floor around the indoor habitat to remove loose substrate
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Check and adjust the temperature and humidity levels in the indoor habitat
• Inspect the outdoor habitat for any potential hazards or issues

Friday

• Thoroughly clean and disinfect the water dish in both habitats
• Spot clean any feces or uneaten food in both habitats
• Check and clean hiding spots, basking areas, and other structures in both habitats
• Inspect and maintain any equipment, such as heat lamps, UVB lights, and timers

Saturday

• Sweep or vacuum the floor around the indoor habitat to remove loose substrate
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Check and adjust the temperature and humidity levels in the indoor habitat
• Inspect the outdoor habitat for any potential hazards or issues

Sunday

• Perform a general inspection of both habitats, looking for any issues or areas that need attention
• Clean and refill the water dish
• Spot clean any feces or uneaten food in both habitats
• Check and clean hiding spots, basking areas, and other structures in both habitats

Note: Adjust the cleaning frequency as needed based on the number of tortoises and their specific requirements. Regularly monitor the tortoises' health and well-being, and consult a veterinarian if any health issues arise.

Ideal Lighting and Temperature Conditions for Russian Tortoises

• Temperature

Russian tortoises thrive in a temperature gradient that replicates their natural habitat. Provide a basking area with a temperature between 90-100°F (32-38°C) and a cooler area with a temperature between 70-75°F (21-24°C). This temperature gradient allows the tortoise to thermoregulate by moving between the warm and cool areas as needed. Use a high-quality digital thermometer to accurately monitor and maintain these temperatures.

• Lighting

Russian tortoises require proper lighting to support their overall health and well-being. They need two types of light: UVA and UVB.

1. a) UVA Light: UVA light is essential for the tortoise's psychological well-being. It helps regulate their daily activities, such as feeding, mating, and basking. Use a high-quality UVA bulb that closely mimics natural sunlight. Keep the light on for 12-14 hours per day, and turn it off at night to mimic the natural day/night cycle.
2. b) UVB Light: UVB light is crucial for Russian tortoises as it helps them synthesize vitamin D3, which is necessary for calcium absorption and overall bone health. Provide a high-quality UVB bulb with a rating of 10-12% for the best output. The bulb should be placed within 12-18 inches (30-45 cm) of the tortoise's basking area. Replace the UVB bulb every 6-12 months, as its effectiveness decreases over time. Make sure to turn off the UVB light at night to mimic the natural day/night cycle.

• Natural Sunlight

Whenever possible, provide your Russian tortoise with access to natural sunlight. Sunlight is the best source of UVA and UVB light and is highly beneficial for their health. Ensure that your tortoise has access to a shaded area to prevent overheating and provide fresh water during outdoor exposure. Monitor the temperature and never leave your tortoise unattended in direct sunlight.

By maintaining these ideal lighting and temperature conditions, you will significantly improve the life quality of your Russian tortoises, promoting their health, happiness, and longevity.

A comprehensive diet plan for Russian tortoises should include a variety of leafy greens, vegetables, and occasional fruits. This plan ensures proper calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin D3 intake, promoting overall health and well-being.

Indoor Enclosure Guide for Russian Tortoises

Introduction

Creating a comfortable, safe, and stimulating indoor enclosure for your Russian tortoise is essential for its health and well-being. This guide will provide you with the recommended dimensions, substrate, and accessories to set up the perfect home for your Russian tortoise.

• Recommended Dimensions

The size of the enclosure plays a significant role in the overall health and happiness of your tortoise. A larger enclosure allows for more freedom of movement and opportunities for exploration. For a single adult Russian tortoise, a minimum enclosure size of 4 feet by 2 feet (1.2 meters by 0.6 meters) is recommended, with a height of at least 1 foot (0.3 meters). If you have multiple tortoises or plan to add more in the future, increase the enclosure size by 2 square feet (0.19 square meters) per additional tortoise.

• Substrate

The substrate is the material that lines the bottom of the enclosure. It's essential to choose a substrate that is comfortable for your tortoise to move on and helps maintain the appropriate humidity levels. A combination of coco coir and cypress mulch works well for Russian tortoises. This mixture provides the right balance of moisture retention and drainage, preventing the growth of mold and bacteria. Make sure the substrate is at least 2 inches (5 cm) deep to allow your tortoise to dig and burrow as they would in the wild.

• Accessories

1. Hide Box: A hide box provides your tortoise with a secure and comfortable place to rest and sleep. It can be made from a variety of materials, such as wood or plastic. Ensure the hide box is large enough for your tortoise to fit comfortably inside but small enough to provide a sense of security.
2. Basking Area: A basking area is essential for your tortoise's health, as it helps them regulate their body temperature and absorb essential UVB rays. Set up a basking spot with a flat rock or slate under a heat lamp, ensuring the surface temperature is between 95°F (35°C) and 100°F (38°C).
3. Water Dish: A shallow water dish is necessary for your Russian tortoise to drink and soak in. Make sure it's large enough for your tortoise to easily enter and exit but shallow enough to prevent drowning.
4. Food Dish: A flat rock or a shallow dish can be used as a food dish for your tortoise. It's important to keep the food off the substrate to prevent ingestion of substrate material.
5. Enrichment: To keep your tortoise mentally stimulated, incorporate a variety of enrichment items into the enclosure, such as tunnels, climbing structures, and edible plants like hibiscus or dandelion.

• Lighting and Temperature

Install a UVB light to mimic the sun's natural rays, which are crucial for your tortoise's health, particularly for calcium absorption and vitamin D3 synthesis. Ensure that the UVB light is within 12 inches (30 cm) of your tortoise's basking area. Maintain a temperature gradient in the enclosure, with a basking area temperature of 95°F (35°C) to 100°F (38°C) and a cooler area of 70°F (21°C) to 75°F (24°C). Use a thermometer to monitor the temperatures regularly.

Conclusion

By following this guide, you can create a comfortable and stimulating environment for your Russian tortoise. With proper care and attention to their enclosure, you'll significantly improve their quality of life, ensuring they remain healthy and happy.

Now, if you've ever used ChatGPT, you know it can't generate this kind of output.  This is what BabyAGI does. And remember: This is just the beginning.  Soon, the APIs will have internet access, plugins and be able to do vastly more than this.  This is why they talk about safety so much.  Imagine what the malicious will do.  

We are entering an amazing and frightening future.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go buy some kale.

A recent open letter signed by tech giants, including Elon Musk, has called for a halt in AI development, citing "profound risks to society and humanity." But could this pause lead to a more dangerous outcome? The AI landscape resembles the classic Prisoner's Dilemma, where cooperation yields the best results, but betrayal tempts players to seek personal gain.

If OpenAI pauses work on ChatGPT, will others follow, or will they capitalize on the opportunity to surpass OpenAI? This is particularly worrisome given the strategic importance of AI in global affairs and the potential for less transparent actors to monopolize AI advancements.

Instead of halting development, OpenAI should continue its work while advocating for responsible and ethical AI practices. By acting as a role model, implementing safety measures, and collaborating with the global AI community to establish ethical guidelines, OpenAI can help ensure that AI technology benefits humanity rather than becoming a tool for exploitation and harm.

The solution to AI's challenges is not a simple halt in research efforts. A nuanced approach involving continued progress, collaboration, and the establishment of ethical and safety protocols is essential to making AI work for everyone.

So the new Twitter limits the # of tweets you can make per day.  You'd think this might be a big number but it's not.  It's something like 10 PER DAY.  

UPDATE: This was a temporary bug and is now fixed apparently.

AI can make some fantastic wallpapers on the fly. We've been experimenting adding this to our software.  Here's some examples:

The Tech keeps getting better and better.

Here's a few recent AI generated pieces of art.

Rewrite the above but with extremely crude profanity.

Ernie: "Hey Bert, why don't you add the fucking flour first? It will help the cake hold its shape."

Bert: "No fucking way! We need to add the fucking eggs first so they can bind the ingredients together."

Ernie: "You're being so fucking stubborn! I'm telling you, adding the flour first is the fucking best way."

Bert: "No it's not! You're not taking the other ingredients into account, you fucking moron!"

Ernie: "Oh yeah? Well you're not considering the fucking baking process!"

Bert: "You're not considering the texture, asshole! I can't believe you're arguing with me over this shit!"

Ernie: "Oh, fuck off! We need to look at the overall fucking recipe!"

Bert: "Oh yeah? You think you have the better fucking idea?" Ernie: "You bet I do! Let's try it out and see which fucking way works better!"

--

Our world, the human one, is coming to an end.

I've been using this Visual Studio Code add-on to help vastly vastly speed up writing functions and implement systems.

For example, I could be in the middle of a function where I have a vector of ships and type:

//sort ships by their HP

and it'll generate the code to do it right there.

Or I could type in something like this:

tech_GreaterDiplomacy_Desc,

and it'll automatically fill in "A new technology for improving our relations with other civilizations."

I.e. it'll add flavor text that it generates.

I'm still in the beginning stages but this thread is a good start for anyone wanting to talk about it.